When Bill met Donald, he wasn’t impressed. We don’t know what Donald thought of the meeting, though.

MSNBC has posted footage of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates describing his two interactions with US President Donald Trump. Gates reels off a string of things about Trump that he didn’t care for: from wanting to make a grand entrance, through not knowing the difference between two diseases, to knowing too much about his daughter’s appearance.

“Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV, so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other,” said Gates. He also mentions how he tried to avoid meeting Trump in the first place. “When I first talked to him, it was actually kind of scary how much he knew about my daughter’s appearance. Melinda [Gates’ wife] didn’t like that too well.”